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Cafe Venue - definitely not a favorite. Lots of tables, gets pretty loud around lunchtime, and don't come here if you're hungry. Bathroom is kind of far away on the other side of the building and you have to leave your cell phone or keys to get the key.

Martin Macks - Haight; lots of seating and empty during the day, music is kind of loud, smells like beer and floor cleaner, kind of cold